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#3962 - 02/04/11 04:45 PM Llama 1911 .45acp value?
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Llama 1911 .45acp full size has gold accents, 2 mags

Don't know exact model number.

Approx value range, in great shape.
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#3963 - 02/04/11 04:54 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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I sold mine last year. Keep in mind that these are NOT 1911 clones, so 1911 parts (with the possible exception of SOME magazines) will not interchange.

Even if the gun is like new, never been fired, don't pay over $250.

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#3964 - 02/04/11 04:56 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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Just quickly scanning the web I found out they are not clones and don't fetch much and had issues. Guy is asking $425 FIRM. I'll pass.
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#3965 - 02/04/11 05:38 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Just quickly scanning the web I found out they are not clones and don't fetch much and had issues. Guy is asking $425 FIRM. I'll pass.


You'd be much better off getting one of these.
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#3966 - 02/04/11 05:44 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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I agree. A couple guys at work don't like RIA 1911's. But they are never specific about what they don't like.
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#3967 - 02/04/11 06:31 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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I wouldn't buy a Llama anything. I bought two 380s in 1976 to carry when I traveled. They were cheap so If I lost them through the airlines no biggie. I would not ever buy a Llama. As for a 1911 there is nothing finer than a high quality manufactured one. The more you spent the happier you will be. Dan Wessons are really nice. Most 1911s over a $1000.00 start to be good. I am a stickler about 1911s.

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#3968 - 02/04/11 06:38 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
I agree. A couple guys at work don't like RIA 1911's. But they are never specific about what they don't like.


Do they own RIAs and/or have experience with them, or are these "1911 snobs"?
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#3969 - 02/04/11 06:38 PM Remington 1911 .45acp [Re: Pablo]
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I'm a stickler about spending $1000!!!

OK OK I'm kidding, but sheesh...that's a lot of dough...

No, Steve S. Dr. Stickler, what do you think about the NEW Remington 1911?
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#3970 - 02/04/11 06:50 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: G-MAN]
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Originally Posted By: G-MAN
or are these "1911 snobs"?


You mean like Steve S.?
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#3972 - 02/04/11 06:52 PM Re: Remington 1911 .45acp [Re: Pablo]
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
I'm a stickler about spending $1000!!!

OK OK I'm kidding, but sheesh...that's a lot of dough...

No, Steve S. Dr. Stickler, what do you think about the NEW Remington 1911?


Don't get sucked into the "1911's below $1000 are crap" nonsense.
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#4004 - 02/06/11 05:26 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: G-MAN
or are these "1911 snobs"?


You mean like Steve S.?
I have shot many 1911s in various calibers and I can honestly say the more they cost the better they are to shoot . I am sure I have posted this before but I'll do it again. I was able to shoot a full out 1911 race gun It cost the guy big bucks more than I would spent. I finally realized what the term a trigger that feels like a glass rod breaking and accuracy means, I could go on and on. I also been able to shoot many times my buds Wilson combats he has two,very nice. I have shot many big buck customs ,Colt Gold Cups ,high end Springfields and Kimbers. None were mine. I really am impressed with the Dan wesson line they are really a bargain for what you get. You may be able to buy a bottom end GI 1911 that works just fine but a higher end 1911 will make life worth living as far as 1911s go. I would rather have a Glock S@W M@P or an XD etc. than a low end 1911.

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#4005 - 02/06/11 07:47 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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I get what Steve is saying, I think.

It costs a certain amount of money to build a good 1911. The 1911 design came from a time when people made guns, not just assembled them, and was designed accordingly. Labor was cheap, so guns could get more attention when made. The assembly line was a new and radical idea in manufacturing.
Not needing long hours of hand-fitting, the 1911 was designed for military service and didn't need near as much attention as most guns of the time. But it still got more attention than most guns get today. They were very specific over how it was to be made, and from what materials. The 1911 extractor, for example, was designed to be self-powered to eliminate a spring and other parts, which was a plus for a military gun. But it came at a price. Every extractor had to be made correctly and from the specific type of steel called for.

So while it doesn't need hand-fitting start to finish, a 1911 does have to be made right. That definition of "right" is narrower than with some other guns designed since assembly from parts bins became the norm.

So yes, it costs a certain amount of money to build a 1911.
If you spend more you might get more. But if you spend less, the savings have to come from somewhere. There is only so much room there.
If one is spending Glock money, get a Glock. If trying to get a 1911 for a Glock price, don't expect much.
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#4006 - 02/06/11 08:48 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: BarryinIN]
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Great input. I have nothing but time and learning at this point.

Trust me, I don't want a Glock! grin

Within manufacturers, take Springfield - are the works of the lowest starter models greatly different than upper models?
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#4007 - 02/06/11 08:53 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: Pablo]
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Great input. I have nothing but time and learning at this point.

Trust me, I don't want a Glock! grin

Within manufacturers, take Springfield - are the works of the lowest starter models greatly different than upper models?


The "works" of any 1911, whether it's a $500 RIA made in the Philippines or a $2500 Ed Brown made in Missouri, are all essentially identical. The difference is in the fit and finish and the quality of the materials.
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#4008 - 02/06/11 09:09 PM Re: Llama 1911 .45acp value? [Re: G-MAN]
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Great input. I have nothing but time and learning at this point.

Trust me, I don't want a Glock! grin

Within manufacturers, take Springfield - are the works of the lowest starter models greatly different than upper models?


The "works" of any 1911, whether it's a $500 RIA made in the Philippines or a $2500 Ed Brown made in Missouri, are all essentially identical. The difference is in the fit and finish and the quality of the materials.



That's what I meant by "the works" - I fully understand they are nearly identical. The works meaning the entire package - OK the fit and finish are not so good in a lower Springfield vs. an upper Springfield. Maybe better steel alloys in the upper model as well.
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